From showing Desi (Ebon Moss-Bachrach) performing analingus on Marnie (Allison Williams) to showing Natalia (Shiri Appleby) crawling on all fours before having rough sex with Adam (Adam Driver) to showing Shoshanna (Zosia Marnet) smoking crack, “Girls” has continually nudged the “appropriate” needle. However, it seems even HBO has its limits. “From the beginning, we were aware that what we were doing was sexually provocative, and that’s what made it interesting and new and fun,” Apatow said. “Lena wanted to reveal something that is normally hidden — so often you’re not talking about a giant part of most people’s lives because people don’t want to portray it on film — and that opened up tons of stories that you’re usually not able to tell.” That’s where HBO drew the line. The network told the show’s producers that airing a cum shot could cost them their broadcasting license. Instead, the show used a mixture of conditioner and Cetaphil to get the desired effect. The end of the scene drew a lot of debate about the importance of enthusiastic consent, which Natalia didn’t express before or during sex. Instead, at the end, she tells Adam, “I don’t think I like that. I, like, really didn’t like that.” Yet, the show’s creators don’t understand why the scene’s considered controversial. “When people watched that scene and said, ‘Is that rape?’ I was surprised,” showrunner Jennifer Konner said. “To me, that was a fully consensual bummer of a sex scene. But that was one where people got upset, and I was thrilled for the feedback because it was really thoughtful and emotional — it wasn’t just this knee-jerk, ‘Oh, we did something else that pissed people off.’” The criticism has been so pointed that HBO’s top executive, Casey Bloys, addressed it during a Television Critics Association panel in July. When asked if HBO’s shows are relying too much on sexualized violence, Bloys defended the network’s inclusion of rape. “Using ‘Game of Thrones,’ violence is not just specific to women, it’s men and women,” he said. “It’s indiscriminate, I would say, so I don’t think so. I think it’s violence in general. I don’t know that it’s specific to women. Men are killed as well.” He also said the violence on “Game of Thrones” and “Westworld” isn’t “specifically isolated to women.”
title: “The Girls Sex Scene That Crossed The Line For Hbo” ShowToc: true date: “2024-10-01” author: “John Baldwin”
From showing Desi (Ebon Moss-Bachrach) performing analingus on Marnie (Allison Williams) to showing Natalia (Shiri Appleby) crawling on all fours before having rough sex with Adam (Adam Driver) to showing Shoshanna (Zosia Marnet) smoking crack, “Girls” has continually nudged the “appropriate” needle. However, it seems even HBO has its limits. “From the beginning, we were aware that what we were doing was sexually provocative, and that’s what made it interesting and new and fun,” Apatow said. “Lena wanted to reveal something that is normally hidden — so often you’re not talking about a giant part of most people’s lives because people don’t want to portray it on film — and that opened up tons of stories that you’re usually not able to tell.” That’s where HBO drew the line. The network told the show’s producers that airing a cum shot could cost them their broadcasting license. Instead, the show used a mixture of conditioner and Cetaphil to get the desired effect. The end of the scene drew a lot of debate about the importance of enthusiastic consent, which Natalia didn’t express before or during sex. Instead, at the end, she tells Adam, “I don’t think I like that. I, like, really didn’t like that.” Yet, the show’s creators don’t understand why the scene’s considered controversial. “When people watched that scene and said, ‘Is that rape?’ I was surprised,” showrunner Jennifer Konner said. “To me, that was a fully consensual bummer of a sex scene. But that was one where people got upset, and I was thrilled for the feedback because it was really thoughtful and emotional — it wasn’t just this knee-jerk, ‘Oh, we did something else that pissed people off.’” The criticism has been so pointed that HBO’s top executive, Casey Bloys, addressed it during a Television Critics Association panel in July. When asked if HBO’s shows are relying too much on sexualized violence, Bloys defended the network’s inclusion of rape. “Using ‘Game of Thrones,’ violence is not just specific to women, it’s men and women,” he said. “It’s indiscriminate, I would say, so I don’t think so. I think it’s violence in general. I don’t know that it’s specific to women. Men are killed as well.” He also said the violence on “Game of Thrones” and “Westworld” isn’t “specifically isolated to women.”
title: “The Girls Sex Scene That Crossed The Line For Hbo” ShowToc: true date: “2024-08-29” author: “Elaine Gleason”
From showing Desi (Ebon Moss-Bachrach) performing analingus on Marnie (Allison Williams) to showing Natalia (Shiri Appleby) crawling on all fours before having rough sex with Adam (Adam Driver) to showing Shoshanna (Zosia Marnet) smoking crack, “Girls” has continually nudged the “appropriate” needle. However, it seems even HBO has its limits. “From the beginning, we were aware that what we were doing was sexually provocative, and that’s what made it interesting and new and fun,” Apatow said. “Lena wanted to reveal something that is normally hidden — so often you’re not talking about a giant part of most people’s lives because people don’t want to portray it on film — and that opened up tons of stories that you’re usually not able to tell.” That’s where HBO drew the line. The network told the show’s producers that airing a cum shot could cost them their broadcasting license. Instead, the show used a mixture of conditioner and Cetaphil to get the desired effect. The end of the scene drew a lot of debate about the importance of enthusiastic consent, which Natalia didn’t express before or during sex. Instead, at the end, she tells Adam, “I don’t think I like that. I, like, really didn’t like that.” Yet, the show’s creators don’t understand why the scene’s considered controversial. “When people watched that scene and said, ‘Is that rape?’ I was surprised,” showrunner Jennifer Konner said. “To me, that was a fully consensual bummer of a sex scene. But that was one where people got upset, and I was thrilled for the feedback because it was really thoughtful and emotional — it wasn’t just this knee-jerk, ‘Oh, we did something else that pissed people off.’” The criticism has been so pointed that HBO’s top executive, Casey Bloys, addressed it during a Television Critics Association panel in July. When asked if HBO’s shows are relying too much on sexualized violence, Bloys defended the network’s inclusion of rape. “Using ‘Game of Thrones,’ violence is not just specific to women, it’s men and women,” he said. “It’s indiscriminate, I would say, so I don’t think so. I think it’s violence in general. I don’t know that it’s specific to women. Men are killed as well.” He also said the violence on “Game of Thrones” and “Westworld” isn’t “specifically isolated to women.”
